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Dr. Sophia Caudle: Techniques for Healing and Empowering your Inner Child

November 01, 2023 • Michelle Hall • Season 2 • Episode 14

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Are you ready to embark on a transformative journey towards healing your inner child? Join us as we welcome the insightful and experienced psychotherapist, Dr. Sophia Caudle, who seeks to unravel the powerful practices of reparenting and rescripting. As the founder of Original Grief, Dr. Caudle offers us a fresh perspective on how to process and heal memories linked to trauma, and how to nourish the wounded inner child that often carries the burden of these experiences. Through her wisdom, she guides us toward understanding how trauma during childhood often leads to internalized blame, and subsequently, feelings of self-doubt and shame. 

Dr. Caudle further enlightens us into the intricate process of reparenting and rescripting, and how we can use these healing techniques to create a stronger sense of safety and connection. We explore practical tools, such as creating a relaxed state, using imagery, making recordings, and slow bilateral stimulation, to support our healing processes. Not forgetting the powerful role of healing symbols in rescripting, we delve into how these can be used in our journey toward self-healing. This discussion is not just about highlighting the struggle, but also about offering solutions and resources to face past traumas and foster healing. Tune in and open your heart to healing possibilities you may not have considered before.

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Michelle Hall:

On my last episode I talked about how healing your trauma becomes 100% your responsibility once you become an adult. That reminded me of an interview I did a while ago with psychotherapist Dr Sophia Caudle. Sophia talked about the techniques of reparenting and rescripting that can help you process and heal memories related to your trauma, and you can practice these techniques and the privacy of your home. Stay tuned for the full interview with Dr Sophia Caudle.

Michelle Hall:

This is Broken to Blessed, a podcast for women survivors of childhood sexual abuse. I am your host, michelle Hall. I am a certified Christian life coach and I am also a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and for many years I felt broken because of that experience. But thank God for his blessings, he pulled me out of brokenness and into blessings Hence the name of the podcast, and I want the same for you. Healing is possible if you're willing to do the work. Let's get started.

Michelle Hall:

Hello, esteemed ones, and welcome to another episode of the esteemed life podcast. Today I have a very special guest. I have with us today Dr Sophia Caudle, and she is a psychotherapist, and she's going to talk with us today about some really, really good techniques that we can use to help heal our inner selves. So Dr Sophia has been a licensed therapist for almost 25 years and she specializes in sex therapy, intimacy, increasing connections, mood issues and so many other things. Dr Sophia is also the founder of the deep healing work of Original Grief, which we're going to learn more about in just a little bit. So welcome to the esteemed life podcast, dr Sophia.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Hello, hello, happy to be here, hey everybody, and thanks for having me, Michelle.

Michelle Hall:

I am so honored that you wanted to join me today and share some of your wealth of knowledge with my listeners. So tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got into psychotherapy.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Yeah, happy to. So let's see, I really, since I was young, I knew that I wanted to be involved in some form of counseling or psychology. I remember being little and people were always coming to me like if they had problems. I seemed to be a good listener and be able to help them, like generate alternatives for what maybe they could try. Then also, as I got older, I come from a big Greek family and our family is now broken up. Unfortunately, our family is extremely, extremely dysfunctional. We have a lot of meanness in our family, a lot of sexual abuse, just so much addiction and adults who are not healed that I found myself needing to go into psychotherapy, not only because it was natural for me, but the reason it was natural was because I was trying to make sense of my life and myself and my feelings, the trauma that I had experienced, which is actually quite extensive. So that's really how I got into it.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

As it turns out, I am a natural at therapy. I am very gifted as a psychotherapist. I help a lot of people. I do root cause psychotherapy, deep psychotherapy, so there's so many types of therapy. I don't do a lot of fluffy surface counseling. Of course. That's how everyone is trained. Those of us who want to do much deeper work, we find our way there. For me, I had to create this model of original grief so that I could heal. Then I've been working hard the past few years to do this with clients. So yeah, that's a little bit just how I've my journey, a little bit.

Michelle Hall:

Awesome. Wow Sounds like you've had quite a bit going on as a child, I know. Often our experiences from our childhood is what leads us into the work that we choose to do, so very interesting. I know that you do a lot of work in sex therapy, so do you often work with women who have been sexually abused as children or even as adults?

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

So I'm also a sex addiction therapist and I'm a trauma therapist. I also. Trauma is here and original grief is here, so I do the trauma work and then we go in and heal the deep original wounding. I work with a lot of sexual abuse and also sex addiction work. Most commonly, but not always, because I'm recovering female sex and love addict myself. Most commonly men are the sex addicts and then the female partners are the women who have experienced betrayal trauma, and so a lot of times those women do have sexual abuse in their past Also. So do other sex addicts, who may be male or female. So I do work with a lot of women and men who have sexual abuse trauma.

Michelle Hall:

Wow. So what are some of the common I guess common complaints or common ailments that you encounter with those types of patients? I'm asking because this is the niche of women that I work with as a coach and of course I'm not a licensed therapist, so I do not treat trauma itself. I work with women who still have some of the residual effects of childhood trauma. So what are things that you have seen in your work that affects women from childhood trauma of this nature?

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

That's a really good question. So oftentimes women are going to and just again, men as well. But when we are sexually abused as a youngster, we feel responsible, we feel like it's our fault. Shame is going to be involved, and it's important to know that the little brain ages 13 and younger. We don't know how to think abstractly, so for anything bad that happens in the family or the household, or anything bad that happens to me, if I'm 13 years or younger, my brain only knows how to blame myself. That's, the brain doesn't know how to go. Wait, that's not my fault, it's their fault, and so that's how that happens. Is that when we're very little? Of course it's got to be my thoughts, because I'm bad, that I keep getting abused, it's because I've done something wrong, I'm so bad, and that's just how the little brain works. So that's one thing to know.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

And so what happens there is women will grow up feeling like I'm not good enough, there's something wrong with me, I'm defective, I'm unlovable For me, my original grief sounds like no one will ever love me enough to stick with me. And so it's these very negative, critical, like voice and thought habits. But to be honest with you, that's not created in trauma that's actually created ages zero to three in the original grief, which is emotional neglect. And so even people who have never been sexually abused, they can still have those same feelings of I'm unlovable, I'm not good enough, I'm defective. So what happens is that negative self-talk has created ages zero to three, zero to five and then trauma. So that's the original grief and then trauma happens up here. So trauma just makes it 100 times worse. Like trauma is the proof. Oh, there is something really wrong with me and it is really my fault.

Michelle Hall:

Wow, so talk to me about the original grief. I'm very interested in knowing more about that and how that works or what exactly it is.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Yeah, so original grief is a new concept that I have created. Again, I had to understand why I was not able to heal. I had to have some kind of method to heal myself, because regular therapy and 12 step was not fully healing me. And so original grief is the leftover, it's the consequential feeling state that we all experience from emotional neglect neglect that we all experience ages zero to three and when we're very, very young. Emotional neglect can simply be something like our caregiver is cooking dinner and we're crying in the crib because we're wet and we're hungry. So it doesn't mean that we have necessarily an abusive caregiver. It just means that our little brain is not regulated and we're just thinking where is everybody? No one's here, no one's here. So that creates this original grief that we all experience on some level. So original grief is really, it's a feeling state. Grief is a feeling state, and this is according to neuroscience not me, although I read neuroscience so that's why this also makes sense to create this concept. It's a helpful way to move through what neglect actually feels like and how it, how it is born in us and how it really stays in our brain and body and it affects us our whole life.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

But the grief neural pathway includes the following emotions that are very common Anxiety, depression, fear and loneliness. These are, these are in the grief neural pathway. So all of these things are connected to our deep, original grief, the foundational feeling state that we all have. And, interestingly enough, when, when those four things don't get tended to in life, oftentimes people become addicts, and so that's really interesting. But but original grief, it's the, it's the consequence of not being fully cared for when we were younger around care, comfort, safety, nurturing and affection, and so that's primarily emotional, but it can also be physical. But so those are the five things that I've come up with that are essential for, you know, all, all primates, ages zero to three, zero to five.

Michelle Hall:

Okay, now you said that that is not necessarily the result of an abusive or traumatic experiences. It's just something that happens almost naturally, as a parent may not be tending with, you know, to their child every minute. Right, that's very interesting.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Yeah, it is interesting because I've worked with hundreds, if not thousands, of people around this. People who have no trauma and come from functional families have just as severe original grief feelings as someone who who really was, in fact, severely neglected like we have the proof of that and it's. It could simply be around. I was actually talking with someone last week. She was the oldest and when the other siblings were born, that's when she wasn't getting enough attention. So that original grief really, you know, really became part of her when, when her younger siblings started being born, because she no longer was getting 100% of mom.

Michelle Hall:

I see, I see. So is that something that can be treated or is that something that you can work in therapy on? Definitely.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

You know I'm getting ready to do my first therapist training around this. I've created a model for this, but I've also got a original grief workshop on my website that people can actually do at home. I teach people how to do the work at home and it's very empowering. But, yes, I mean, this can definitely be treated. A therapist has to really know how to go into this deep place with people. So ideally, therapists have to do this work first, then we can take other people there and the work is really.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

I happen to do eye movement, desensitization, reprocessing, which is EMDR. It's a trauma treatment, but we can use it for everything. Also, I do a lot of re-parenting, re-scripting with people. Anyone can do that and you know there's I've found that there's definitely a method that's effective for that as well. So you know what? What you know to really think about is we have to go back into those deep feelings that are usually pre-verbal and pre-memory, those deep feelings of pain and loneliness, and that's where we have to heal and re-parent. But we have to feel the grief because when we were little it was too overwhelming to feel the grief. Now that we're in our adult self and we're learning to be healthier, healthy adults, then we can help our little self feel the feelings and assist in the healing.

Michelle Hall:

Wow, that is amazing. So if someone, how would someone know if, if they're having trouble, if they're feeling these things and they don't know of this concept, how can, how would someone be able to get help with that?

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Well, if someone is going to a regular counselor who does some kind of trauma work, there's some relief that can happen there, trauma work being EMDR or brain spotting or somatic experiencing or even vivid imagery. So you know, some therapists can help with alternative therapies. But talk therapy in my opinion would be quite ineffective. I mean, I think it would be. It's like what we have to do, that on the path to go into the deep healing places. But I would suggest someone find a therapist who knows how to do some kind of alternative therapy as well as talk therapy and that if they really want to do specifically this original grief work, they can buy the workshop. It's very inexpensive. You can do it with your therapist, you know, you can even have your therapist call me. I'll be doing therapists consulting and I'm happy to walk people through it, and also pretty soon I'll be doing other meetings through my practice to help people who are really interested in doing this deep healing on their own. So resources are there but they just need to. You know, certainly contact me.

Michelle Hall:

Okay, Awesome. So you mentioned um re parenting and re scripting, so I'd like to talk a little bit about each of those. What is re parenting?

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Yeah, re parenting is really cool. So, um, I first learned about re parenting. So the 12 step program, adult children of alcoholics and dysfunctional families they talk about re parenting all the time throughout the whole program. And then I also got trained in schema therapy and I've done schema therapy with an excellent therapist, so we do some re parenting.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

But what was also what was always somewhat bothersome to me is like re parenting is like this thing that you're just supposed to know how to do, and I was like, well, if I knew how to do that, I probably wouldn't be in therapy. You know, like I would have already fixed this a long time ago. And so and I think a lot of people feel like that, like how, what are we doing? And so the past few years I'd say for four years or so I've been coming up with what I find are effective re parenting steps, and so this is what I do with people in my, in my practice. I also just recently created a re parenting workshop because, again, I want to get all of this out to people so they can do this at home for a, you know, very affordable price.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

But but re parenting basically again takes us back to those wounded parts of us, those wounded ages and and what. When I do re parenting with people and myself, it's important that you know we first get into a very relaxed state and imagery is very important. So we have to be slow, we have to be imagining either the memory or our little self, like I'll have pictures up and around of my clients, or like, if it's me, I have a picture right here that I look at if I'm going to do re parenting and then I've got these steps that seem to be helpful, and that's just. You know what we do and what I do with people, also with myself. I encourage people to make recordings so you know you can make these recordings and listen to them over and over again. And at the same time you're listening to the recordings, I teach people to do very slow bilateral stimulation, which might be very slow, taps on the shoulders like little butterfly taps, and so that's also really helpful while we're doing the re parenting.

Michelle Hall:

And what does reparenting do? What exactly are you doing when you're reparenting? Good question.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

I think the way that I intend it and the way I think about it is you know, we are, we're healing that wounded part of us so that that wounded part can finally be free and feel safe and integrate into us. And so what I like to do with people I really don't remember where I heard this or where I learned this. I don't remember it might have been from one of my clients a long time ago. But you know, when we're done with the reparenting, I like to have whoever I'm working with, and then even in the workshop I think I mentioned this like you can imagine that four-year-old part, like just popping on our back and sitting in a little backpack and just like being safe and happy and content, like my little Sophia is going to play Barbies or something, because that's what I love to do when I was little, and so I can just, you know, integrate her in. And here I am, in my healthy adult, I'm the one who's like living life and making decisions and protecting her. Because when I was little.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Obviously no one protected me in those places of deep wounding, and so now the only person that can heal that is me. It's too late. For my parents, that was an epic fail, and so they have the damages already done. That ship sailed, yeah, and so now it's up to me, and so it's really. We keep going in and doing that work until we don't get activated in the same ways. So much if that makes sense. So we're really healing those little parts of us and inviting them in to meet with us so that they feel safe and they don't have to react like that.

Michelle Hall:

Okay, okay. So if you have a child, or if you were a child who was constantly ignored or neglected as a child and you felt like you were just not loved, yeah, and that was the constant of your childhood, yeah, how do you re parent that with it being a continual thing over many years and not a specific incident?

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

That's a really good question. I think that's actually similar to my experience. So we're really talking about re parenting. Fear and loneliness, really, when we think about it that way. Also probably anxiety, because when we're alone and we're very little we're going to we're going to, our brain is going to be working overtime to try to figure out, like, how do I fix this, how do I make myself feel safe? So that kind of re parenting.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

I mean the first thing I would actually start with would be regular psychotherapy and having someone create a life now that they're going to be taking care of themselves and putting themselves first, not in a selfish way, but more in a way that's going to be giving care, comfort, safety, nurturing and affection all the things that we didn't get enough of. So if we were ignored and we weren't a priority, we just kind of raised ourselves. That means that that we, it's up to us to give ourselves those things. So I would work with someone and come up with a plan for what could be helpful. For instance, the main thing someone would want to do is create a lot of healthy connection. So it could be through a church community, it could be through a 12 step, that could be through an existing friend group. But but really creating connection, that's going to be deeper than just a surface connection, something that's very deep. Because, you know, what we know is that when that person was young there wasn't enough social bonding, and social bonding is actually what prevents all of this deep grief. So now we've got to create very healthy and effective social bonding and then I would do a lot of reparenting around it. So there doesn't have to be an event. We could just simply be reparenting like oh, you know so, and so isn't it sad that when you were younger and you were so cute like we'd have these cute little pictures, you were so cute that you know your caregivers were too busy doing whatever they were doing, that they, they, you weren't a priority and they didn't spend time with you.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

And so I go through all the reparenting steps around that and ideally, you know what would happen is when that person was feeling very scared or lonely or unsafe. First I would encourage them to feel those feelings fully, because that's a way that we get better. Our feelings won't hurt us. Feel them, that's why they're there. And then, when you think you felt your feelings enough, listen to the reparenting, you know, with the slow, bilateral taps and then, when you're done with the reparenting, call someone who was a deep connection for you and say, hey, I just had a lot of grief come up. You know, I was, I feel like I was, you know, ignored when I was like as young as one and two. Nobody was paying attention to me, I was alone a lot. I just wanted to connect with you around that and just, you know, keep connecting with people, keep connecting with people. And then that's how we, that's how we heal and overcome and reparent and integrate that part of us in here.

Michelle Hall:

So, basically, with the re-parenting, you are in essence parenting yourself and giving yourself what you didn't get as a child.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Very well said. All of this original grief work it's all about what we did not get. I have a big whiteboard in my office and at the very top it says it's about what we did not get around care, comfort, safety, nurturing and affection. So a lot of people think that what we have to heal is what we remember. That's part of it. But what I've seen with people and this is actually how I got into this work I did all of my trauma healing and I did that with clients, but something was still like activating the trauma. I was like what is going on? I could not figure it out. After a couple of years I was like wait a minute. So there's something actually beneath the trauma that feels similar to the trauma, but it's actually got nothing to do with this trauma. It's much earlier. It's this original grief. If we don't go in and work on this, this trauma will keep getting triggered. The trauma is what we remember, but this original grief, like most of us, don't remember it. So, yeah, it's all about what we did not get.

Michelle Hall:

Very interesting. I just thought of another question. One big thing that I see a lot is unforgiveness that adult children have for their parents. A lot of times people feel like they need for their parents to say something to them, to apologize, to acknowledge yes, this happened, blah, blah, blah. So often they don't get that because I think a lot of times parents don't feel like they did anything wrong. So this reparenting would be very helpful in a situation like that, it seems, because it's not reliant on the parent doing anything.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Yeah. So when we are looking outside of ourselves for someone to heal us, even if it's our parents, that's basically being codependent. So the way I define codependency is an obsessive focus outside the self on other people, places or things to validate or affirm me After we're like 18 or however old you want to say it let's just say 18 or 21, after we're like 18, only we can validate ourselves, only we can fix this. So as a 52-year-old woman looking out here to my mom to heal, this is really not fair. She's older, she's dealing with her stuff and the time for that to really have an effect on me was when I was really young ages 0 to 18 or 21 or 25 or something. Now it's my responsibility and exactly what you said.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Most parents are just not doing that because, to be perfectly honest, what I've seen is that generationally, everyone's doing a better job than what was done for them Everyone. I've never seen it go backwards. I've only seen even horrific situations. It's better than what was done for them in the past generation. So most parents are thinking what is wrong with them? They've had a cushy life compared to what I experienced, and most of the people are right.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

That doesn't mean that it's okay, and so reparenting is absolutely about calling out what was not okay, but it's not in a hateful way and it's not like blame, blame, blame, blame. It's really a way of understanding that my parents could only give me what they themselves had to give, so if they didn't have it, they couldn't give it. And is it okay? No, it's not okay, but it's all that they were able to do. So again. Now I've got to fix that, and I've only seen one situation in my whole career, almost 25 years where a parent was willing to come and do this original grief intensive work with their daughter, and it was the most amazing thing I've ever been a part of in my whole life, and but that just isn't common.

Michelle Hall:

Right, yeah, I think as soon as people realize that they have the power within themselves to do their own work and that they don't need external validation, I think people will start to heal a lot faster.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

I think you're exactly right. Yeah, I mean it would be great if, like, I could heal you and you could heal me. I mean that would be great, like that would save us both a lot of trouble. Exactly, that just is not how it works. Like you can guide me and say, sathya, why don't you try these things? And like I can say, hey, michelle, let's do this stuff and see how it works for you. But ultimately, you know, the healing work has to be us looking in the mirror and saying, yes, we have to do this together.

Michelle Hall:

Yep, I agree 100%. Okay, let's move on to rescripting. Can you explain what that is and how it differs from reparenting?

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Yeah, rescripting the way that I do it. Again, probably other therapists maybe do a different version. But what I do is I will, when I do this deep work with people, I'll sort of keep track of pretty important memories and I will, when we're in the middle, after we've done our reparenting, I'll usually do a rescripting. You know, when that person isn't a very relaxed state, doing the slow bilateral stimulation, I'll walk them through a memory that was pretty disturbing and I myself will jump into that memory and I will just really take care of business and you know I will speak up, I will advocate for that child because it's a child in the memory. But also let me just say reparenting and rescripting can be done about things that are happening like a year ago, you know, today or last week or whatever. But it's really this early stuff that we need to heal first, if at all possible. So I'll go into the memory and I will really dress down the caregivers. I will let them know what it is that they're doing wrong. I will let them know that it's not okay. I will also let them know that they need to stop immediately. And if they don't stop, here's what I'm going to do, like I either may call DSS, we're going to come take the kids away.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

But at the end of every rescripting I always take the child with me and let them know they no longer have to stay there in this memory, and so I take them out of the memory. They're gone, they never have to go back there. And then again I put that little child you know, once you ask you know little little so and so to pop on your back in that little backpack and just let him be there with you and you protect him. So it's really validating, it's very affirming for people. Most people start crying when they hear me rescript because a lot of people have never had anybody protect them, they've never had anybody really have their back and a lot of people are terrified of their parents and so, especially if they've been abused, so you know they it really is overwhelming for people to have someone stand up to their caregivers. We could even do that for abuse, so we could go into an abuse memory and do the same thing. And and you know that that's what rescripting basically is.

Michelle Hall:

Okay, so rescripting is based on a specific memory or a specific incident, perhaps, yeah, and and you as a therapist, go in and advocate for the child in that memory.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Yes, and and and. You could also do rescripting, like with a coach or a therapist, where, say, I'm going to go into the memory, I'm the client, go into the memory and I'm going to speak out loud what I wish I had been able to say, or what I would say now, or what should be said to the person who was committing the infraction against me. So you could, you could. Rescripting is kind of like you can create a rescript whatever it's going to be helpful for the client.

Michelle Hall:

Yeah, Okay, okay, I can see where that would be very helpful to. Yeah, because sometimes you know we hold on to specific memories, things that cause this great pain at a particular time. Or you know it could have been where you know a mother said something you know very hurtful or harmful. You know a mother or father, or you know it could have been a particular activity or like, and you know an act of, you know some type of act that you remember specifically. You know I have some of those myself as a as a victim of childhood sexual abuse.

Michelle Hall:

I don't remember everything. I don't really want to, but there are, there are particular things that I remember about those times. That just seems to stick with me. I've done the work and I'm good with that. There are particular things from my own experience that just that just seem to hurt in a certain kind of way and they just stick with you. So re-scripting is actually is a technique that I think it would be very helpful and very useful for a lot of people as well. Oh, those are some wonderful, wonderful things that folks can do. And tell me about the courses that you have that people, if anyone is interested in doing any of these techniques or learning more about it. Tell me about the classes that you have.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Yeah, thanks for asking about that. So I've been doing therapy for so many years now and the past since I've been doing this original grief work, I've really been grappling with gosh how can I get this out in the world and make it more just easy easy for everybody to have access to and make it affordable. And it's expensive Like if you don't live in North Carolina, you have to travel here and all of that's expensive. And I can do some of this through Zoom consulting work. But what I've found is really helpful is just recording workshops that I've done with people, and so I've got an original grief workshop.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Now I've got a re-parenting workshop. I'm creating a shop on my website. My website is Bull City Psychotherapy. I'm creating a shop called Dr Sophia's Healing Shop and right now I am in the process of creating lots of re-parenting messages. So I'm making like 10 or 15 minute re-parenting message that are topical Right now. I've got how to build your sense of self. I've got a codependency re-parenting. I've got a self compassion that's coming soon and how to work on the critical voice that says I'm not good enough.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

So I'm really building a lot of resources that are gonna be very affordable, easy access that people can do at home, and it doesn't mean that you still can't work with a coach or a therapist.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

But this is just what I have found, as a person who wants to heal and also a therapist, is that we really have to be doing a lot of heavy lifting work in between therapy sessions.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

So if we wait to come to therapy once a week, once every other week or once a month, our rate at which we feel better, get better and heal, it's just it's gonna be very slow, and I'm really interested in people feeling better as quickly as possible so that they can take a deep dive and go into the deeper work, cause that's where the exciting freedom healing is is in the original grief. So I'm just trying to create all kinds of resources that are gonna be helpful to people. So if you're listening to this, I'd love for y'all to email me at Sophia at Bull City Psychotherapy or let Michelle know, and she can let me know, like, what are some topics for reparenting and workshops that you want me to create? Because I find that people are my inspiration, so I wanna make what's helpful, but I'm really excited to be getting a lot of this healing work into the hands of people who want to heal at a deep level, and that's what really excites me at this point in my life.

Michelle Hall:

Wonderful, wonderful. I will put your information in the show notes so if anyone wants to reach out and look at, take a look at your website, your classes, your courses, workshops, and if anybody have any ideas on things that would be helpful, they will know where to reach out to you. Can you give us your social media handles? Where can people find you?

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

I can. I can barely do this because I'm really really new at social media, so I have a new, everything's new, and so my new Facebook is Dr Sophia Caudill, and I also have two Instagram accounts that are new. One of them is OG Therapist, which stands for Original Grief Therapist, or it can be whatever you want it to stand for. That would be lovely. Yes, I am the OG therapist as well, just to be clear about that. I have a healthy sense of self, and also I have another Instagram called Sessions with Dr Sophia, and when I'm done making several reparenting audios for people to listen to, I'm gonna be also creating some mini sessions for people to buy on my website, and that I'm hoping so. I wanna have ideas around that how that could be helpful. But those are the main social media. I would love everyone to follow me so that I can really start getting the word out about all of this. Also, I have an Original Grief book coming out soon that I just wanna make people aware of so that it can be helpful to people.

Michelle Hall:

Awesome. I will certainly come back around and tag your book when it is available so that my listeners can take advantage of that if they want to do that, and I will have all of this information in the show notes, all of your contact information and links to your website. Tell me about your practice. I know you're Bull City Therapy and I know you are based in Durham, North Carolina, but I believe you have a couple of other locations.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

I do, yeah, so my main office is in Durham. I have several associates. They're all wonderful and talented. Everyone's sort of got something new and different to bring to Bull City. We specialize in a lot of different areas Basically everyone. Like when we drill everything down, we're really aimed at intimacy and connection. I mean because connection is the cure for everything and so, no matter what brings people in the door, that's where the work ultimately goes, and also this original grief. And then I also have a practice in Apex, north Carolina, and also Wilmington, north Carolina, and I do a free meeting every Wednesday at noon Eastern on a website called In the Rooms. It's a recovery website and that meeting is called Codependency, grief and Relationships. So we talk about a lot of this and more, and I also do workshops with people all over the world. So even if someone's not in North Carolina, I'm available for consulting and to do a workshop or however I can be of assistance. Wonderful, wonderful.

Michelle Hall:

I really appreciate the work that you do. There are so many hurting people in our world that needs this work and I'm glad to be a part of it as a coach in my lane and having you and wonderful therapists doing the deep trauma work and deep healing work, because it's so needed in this time, so needed in this time. So thank you so much, dr Sophia, for being on the podcast. It was a pleasure learning about these things, and I know that this information will be helpful to so many people.

Dr. Sophia Caudle:

Thanks, Michelle for having me. It was a pleasure being with you. It was a pleasure being with you.

Michelle Hall:

Thank you for joining me on this episode of Broken to Blessed. Subscribe to the podcast and share it with all of your sister girlfriends. This podcast may be the catalyst to their healing journey. And remember life can get better. You just have to do the work. God bless.

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